I imagine that making a living as a comedian in an expensive city like Vancouver isn’t easy. Yet, you’ve decided to give the money you make off your paintings away. Why is that?

It’s been my experience that once you’ve started doing something for money, it really does have the ability to take the joy out of it, because you start asking yourself, ‘What should I be doing?‘ I already do a lot of different things to pay the bills and I wanted to keep something that was just for me, something I’d really enjoy doing.

GEN-XERS AND MILLENNIALS ARE OFTEN PORTRAYED AS “CHARITY-FATIGUED”. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?

I think that the idea of giving back has been…. not hijacked, but it has been given over to the very wealthy. I mean, we just go bananas when a famous person does something that is well within their means to do — when Bill Gates or Warren Buffett give $100 million away, for example. But you rarely hear the stories of little people who made a big difference in their community.

So, I think it makes regular people feel like ‘oh, philanthropy is a thing that the very wealthy do’, and that’s too bad, because I don’t think that’s true.

What do you think is true?

I think that giving back is something everybody can do if they want to. You just have to do it. And it doesn’t have to be money necessarily. It can be something as little as having an elderly neighbour and they can’t mow their lawn, so you do it for them. Those things are within our grasp. And they are not as celebrated, of course, as some celebrity visiting kids at the hospital, but it’s still super important.

To me, it’s just part of what it means to be a person.

When you say ‘it’s part of being a person’, do you mean we have a civic duty to look out for each other, or that philanthropy is biologically ingrained in us?

I think in general, giving back is a really natural part of life and people are driven to it. Some people might argue that being greedy is more natural, but I think humans are very tribe-minded. There is this kind of a modern day philosophy that it’s everyone for themselves and ‘dog eat dog’, but that’s not the whole picture and people are pretty tired of that world, I think.

I could be way wrong, but it feels like in the last six or seven years with the recession happening, people are starting to question whether or not our society should function as an outgrowth of one kind of ideology, and they start to think that maybe it should be a blend of a couple of different ones.

In that sense, do you think that giving back creates community, that it brings us closer together?

Yes, I do think it creates community. You are creating investment in people and ideas. I mean, it’s terrible that it’s usually around something awful, but it’s like the flood in Calgary. I was there at the time and witnessed the community come together and helping each other out. That was really inspiring. Everybody dropped what they were doing. My brothers and my dad spent all their free time to dig people’s houses out, people they didn’t even know.

And that sort of collaboration also happens outside of disaster relief. I regularly do charity shows and I never had any trouble booking people or people saying ‘I don’t have time for that’.

Speaking of the comedy community in Vancouver: Do you think charity has a place in the arts?

I think people in the arts give back disproportionately to what they’re making. They give back an awful lot. Any given weekend I know a comedian doing a charity show for no pay, and I bet you it’s the same in the music industry and visual arts. Artists put on fundraisers all the time, whether it’s art-specific, or for a specific charity, or a friend who had all their equipment stolen or is sick. There’s room for that and it’s just part of working in the arts.

Anybody in the arts knows what it’s like to have no money and to be on hard times. And you also just get used to the idea of raising money for things, because a lot of artists have to do that all the time for their projects, so it’s no big thing.

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March 13th, 2015

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